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^ Lol. The backflip at rocky point was not stomped. I didn't get it around QUITE far enough and landed kind of flat on my feet so I compressed rolled once then skied away. I needed a wee bit more speed on the inrun and it would have been good. I think 
Yesterday, 4/2 Adam Tyalk and myself went up Timpanogos to ski the Grunge couloir. It's one of the steeper lines in the wasatch being 62 degrees at the top, but lessens to 49 degrees until the apron. We met Ty at the LCC park'n'ride at 3am, started hiking at 4:20 and made great time. It's a big approach and 5k vert. The couloir is beautiful. It wasn't exposed except for the very top where it doglegs above some cliffs in the steep section. So we make great time getting up it, everyone feeling good despite 2 hours of sleep the previous night, the snow in the coolie was GREAT it was fluffy sluff debris and new snow piling in the whole time due to some insane spin drifts. We watched a few big sluffs truck down it from the top and cruise 4' away from us (in a safe spot, and not enough snow moving to really worry us). The top steep part was scary. Snow/ice that steep is no fall zone; you're more likely to die from a fall than survive one. Each step we had to kick our boots 8 or 9 times to get a purchase in the snow and make sure it wouldn't crumble as well as punch both whippets in as hard as we could to get 4 points of contact. So we get to this little bench in the rock a drift had formed up at the very top to transition and ski. As I'm trying to click in nothing is happening with my right boot because the metal dynafit heel adapter fell out out somewhere leaving me stranded. It was the biggest OH SH!T situation I can remember. Skiing it would've incredible and still had everyone on their toes because of the no fall zone, but downclimbing? I was terrified. SOOO much harder to downclimb than upclimb, and on top of a small cliff band on a 60+ degree slope, and the fact that I'm really not experienced with ice climbing and navigating steep as kcuf terrain. I made it down, it was slow going, but I didn't get hurt. The whole experience just really kind of slapped me in the face. Wake up at 230 after no sleep to go hike for 4-5 hours and reach the top of one of the steepest lines in the Wasatch in a remote location, we find incredible snow in it so I'm super excited to ski it, then I find out I can't and have to downclimb potentially lethal terrain in a small blizzard of single digit temps, spindrift, and no sun exposure. I'll get pics up soon of the whole affair. It was still a good trip just getting up there. After that we went rock climbing in American Fork where there is some INSANE rock. I climbed a 5.6 that's all I could manage.
Yesterday, 4/2 Adam Tyalk and myself went up Timpanogos to ski the Grunge couloir. It's one of the steeper lines in the wasatch being 62 degrees at the top, but lessens to 49 degrees until the apron. We met Ty at the LCC park'n'ride at 3am, started hiking at 4:20 and made great time. It's a big approach and 5k vert. The couloir is beautiful. It wasn't exposed except for the very top where it doglegs above some cliffs in the steep section. So we make great time getting up it, everyone feeling good despite 2 hours of sleep the previous night, the snow in the coolie was GREAT it was fluffy sluff debris and new snow piling in the whole time due to some insane spin drifts. We watched a few big sluffs truck down it from the top and cruise 4' away from us (in a safe spot, and not enough snow moving to really worry us). The top steep part was scary. Snow/ice that steep is no fall zone; you're more likely to die from a fall than survive one. Each step we had to kick our boots 8 or 9 times to get a purchase in the snow and make sure it wouldn't crumble as well as punch both whippets in as hard as we could to get 4 points of contact. So we get to this little bench in the rock a drift had formed up at the very top to transition and ski. As I'm trying to click in nothing is happening with my right boot because the metal dynafit heel adapter fell out out somewhere leaving me stranded. It was the biggest OH SH!T situation I can remember. Skiing it would've incredible and still had everyone on their toes because of the no fall zone, but downclimbing? I was terrified. SOOO much harder to downclimb than upclimb, and on top of a small cliff band on a 60+ degree slope, and the fact that I'm really not experienced with ice climbing and navigating steep as kcuf terrain. I made it down, it was slow going, but I didn't get hurt. The whole experience just really kind of slapped me in the face. Wake up at 230 after no sleep to go hike for 4-5 hours and reach the top of one of the steepest lines in the Wasatch in a remote location, we find incredible snow in it so I'm super excited to ski it, then I find out I can't and have to downclimb potentially lethal terrain in a small blizzard of single digit temps, spindrift, and no sun exposure. I'll get pics up soon of the whole affair. It was still a good trip just getting up there. After that we went rock climbing in American Fork where there is some INSANE rock. I climbed a 5.6 that's all I could manage.
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killer. was wondering if you had done some launching off stuff to go along with all those nice lines, glad to see thats the case.
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Dude^^^Scary stuff. I had the same thing happen with my boot at the top of Emma ridge last year and had to tail gun it slowly the whole way. I really can't imagine it happening in an icy no fall zone.
Glad to hear you made it out ok- it's really hard to describe the feeling when you are really and truly gripped. However, the feeling when you know you are safe and going to make it home? Few things better, really.
Glad to hear you made it out ok- it's really hard to describe the feeling when you are really and truly gripped. However, the feeling when you know you are safe and going to make it home? Few things better, really.
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Wow, very scary, the fact that you went on to climb anything later that day is amazing.
BTW -- I type this from home, not in Utah or SW Montana as I'd hoped, my seasons done, hope things hold out there for everyone still there or on their way
BTW -- I type this from home, not in Utah or SW Montana as I'd hoped, my seasons done, hope things hold out there for everyone still there or on their way
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Las tFriday it was forecasted to snow 2-5", but it snowed 13" instead-- just deep enough to bury most of the ice crust. It was a great unexpected pow day with very few people skiing due to the errant forecast. Wildcat was ****.
The next day Adam, Billy, Tyfalk, and myself toured BCC. We skied a nice headwall in Days fork nothing crazy at all just nice to be able to ski it in powder. It's been off limits until a few weeks ago due to depth hoar. After that we skinned up to the ridge and skied the Hallway. It's W facing so we got to it before the sun did allowing for great pow w/ a little chunder in a really neat couloir that I had not yet skied. Below that is a shot called the Tube which is a huge mini gully wide enough for 1/2 dozen of tracks. It was all time. After that we skied the Old Growth Chute further down the canyon. It's very tough to locate, but Tyfalk knew where to go. It wasn't very good skiing but a nice steep shot nonetheless. It got HOT which really made skinning pretty miserable and slower going. Overall an Awesome day of spring pow skiing
Adam at the Top of the Hallway
SR enjoying the descent
The Tube. L-R is Adam, Tyfalk, SR
I'll get pics up of the Temptanigga I mean Timpanogos excursion soon
The next day Adam, Billy, Tyfalk, and myself toured BCC. We skied a nice headwall in Days fork nothing crazy at all just nice to be able to ski it in powder. It's been off limits until a few weeks ago due to depth hoar. After that we skinned up to the ridge and skied the Hallway. It's W facing so we got to it before the sun did allowing for great pow w/ a little chunder in a really neat couloir that I had not yet skied. Below that is a shot called the Tube which is a huge mini gully wide enough for 1/2 dozen of tracks. It was all time. After that we skied the Old Growth Chute further down the canyon. It's very tough to locate, but Tyfalk knew where to go. It wasn't very good skiing but a nice steep shot nonetheless. It got HOT which really made skinning pretty miserable and slower going. Overall an Awesome day of spring pow skiing
Adam at the Top of the Hallway
SR enjoying the descent
The Tube. L-R is Adam, Tyfalk, SR
I'll get pics up of the Temptanigga I mean Timpanogos excursion soon
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this is going to mark me as a total ***** -- and may even return me to the Powder sucks thread from years ago
BUT -- I don't get it, not this so much but I checked out footage of the Grunge couloir and I am definitely saying WHY? it does not look fun at all. It just seems like checking off an extreme list
SR I respect what you've accomplished, don't take it wrong
BUT -- I don't get it, not this so much but I checked out footage of the Grunge couloir and I am definitely saying WHY? it does not look fun at all. It just seems like checking off an extreme list
SR I respect what you've accomplished, don't take it wrong
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I used to have the same view and know what you're talking about. I didn't understand the appeal of skiing dangerous lines involving ropework, exposure, or very steep terrain. Once you get to the point where you're able to handle yourself in that terrain (I'm not comfortable with ropework, yet) it opens up a ton of really incredible descents. Getting into big terrain that you hike to is one of the best most enjoyable aspects of skiing imo. Pushing yourself and skiing something that you're not 100% comfortable with is what makes skiing awesome. You have to stay focused the whole time it's not like skiing mindless low angle pow fields; I still really enjoy riding resort and in areas that aren't like the Grunge, but chute and couloir skiing is incredible, and the wasatch is a great place for it. Maybe it's having skied 200+ days in LCC/BCC the last two seasons, but it takes a lot more to get the juices flowing right now than it did last year or the years before.
Also keep in mind the Grunge is one of the steepest lines in Utah technically rated as a class 2 alpine climb. Most of the other stuff I've skied has been much more forgiving than that and far lower consequence in the event of a mishap. And I skied groomers yesterday (and Little Chute)
Also keep in mind the Grunge is one of the steepest lines in Utah technically rated as a class 2 alpine climb. Most of the other stuff I've skied has been much more forgiving than that and far lower consequence in the event of a mishap. And I skied groomers yesterday (and Little Chute)